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October 22, 2005, 05:20 PM by Bing | 6 Comments

Finally, MSN Search was visited by Channel 9 – the amazing MSDN Web site that brings the people of Microsoft to you in video.  Erik Selberg and I joined Robert Scoble for a lively, hour-long discussion.  Check out the video here.

 

We talk about:

  • the neural network (see June 21 post), 01:30
  • static versus dynamic rank (see our May 03 post), 04:00
  • search engine optimization, 08:20
  • the nature of relevance, 12:00
  • index size (see Aug 29 Post), 17:00
  • the 64 bit Windows infrastructure of MSN Search, 24:00
  • Link based importance, 38:00

And lots more -- check it out! BTW, in a small world moment, Erik and I worked together on software for psychology experiments when we attended Carnegie Mellon way back in 1990. We also shared a wall between our respective abodes, and… wait, those stories are for a different blog!

 

Andy Edmonds, Program Management

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Search Engines Web :-)

Posted On October 22, 2005, 06:26 PM
The idea of being PUBLIC and openning the doors of communication with the users of MSN search is a BRILLIANT and practical idea.

It is SO-O very important that Search Engine Developers/ Engineers no longer hidE behind a wall of secrecy - so much ALGO and SERPs feedback can be offered by spontanous interaction with the potential users.

MSN has had an enourmous increase in relavancy in the past several months!!!!

For the first time in ages, it is being used to suppliment Google's & Yahoo's defeciencies by professional searchers.

While no search engine can be a panacea - most people are beginning to realize the need to search them all - and Developers/Engineers are realizing the importance of unique ALGOs and SERPs, so that unique results are available for those wishing to get the "Creme de la Creme" of sites. :-)

What is really puzzling is Why did it take BILL so long to realize the need to develop MSN search - it could have been so far advanced if this had been going on years ago...?????????????


BTW:
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=search+engines&FORM=QBHP

doing a query for the term "SEARCH ENGINES" why is there ONLY 9 organic listings on page one SERP????

Paul from Nata1

Posted On October 23, 2005, 02:41 PM
It took me months to get Scoble to do that - had to pester all the time, well worth it - met all my expectations :)

AussieWebmaster

Posted On October 24, 2005, 11:14 AM
Funny if you look at the title tags for Google, MSN and Yahoo! none has search in them.

MSN is tipping it's organic hand as when you do a search for search engine the weight of the title tag plays through.

Authoritive anchor text may also be a factor - even looking at the Google results - since I doubt too many people use search engine when linking to the top search engines... though I wonder if they get in trouble like SEOBook did for too many repetitions of the name.

Cyanbane

Posted On October 24, 2005, 12:27 PM
I agree it is a refreshing thing to see SE developers comming forward and commuicating directly to both Webusers and Webmasters. Kudos for this. I do also think that the serps and looking much better also (after last weekends Google Update 'Jagger' I think in some places they are actually looking much muchbetter). In all honestly I think if there is a target for good serps, you should look at Y! as a target.

Search Engines Web

Posted On October 24, 2005, 03:09 PM
Isn't it odd that Search.msn.com is defaulting to Spanish on some datacenters 10/24/05




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Posted On November 03, 2005, 03:27 PM
I am not sure if this the right place to post about "Windows Desktop Search" but i couldnt find any team blog for this. I found one blog related to Windows Desktop Search but the last post in that blog was in August.

I like Windows Desktop Search but i find that Windows Desktop Search is more focused into finding phrases inside a document rather that find the docuemnt by the phrase name itself. For example, i tried searching for "dotnetfx.exe" but what i found were readme adn setup docuemnts taht had references to "dotnetfx.exe" as a text. What i was looking for wasthe actual exe. I alos try "*.exe", *dot*.exe" and ironically there wasnt a single result shown.

Is this is how Windows Desktop Search behaves, if yes then i will switch to something that is smart enough to understand that i am searching for the sctual file and not the filename inside a document

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