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fake referrer from bing

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Eliezer

I am seeing the following in my statcounter logs

magnify this user    65.55.109.85    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    2
magnify this user    65.55.107.191    MSIE 6.0    Windows 2003    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.173    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.235    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.109.59    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.109.34    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.196    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.60    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.109.217    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.107.219    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.109.194    MSIE 6.0    Windows 2003    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.43    MSIE 6.0    Windows 2003    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.70    MSIE 6.0    Windows 2003    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.234    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.107.217    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.143    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.109.180    MSIE 6.0    Windows 2003    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.110.89    MSIE 6.0    Windows 2003    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.107.209    MSIE 6.0    Windows 2003    800x600    0    1
magnify this user    65.55.107.206    MSIE 6.0    Windows XP    800x600    0    1

The referring link is always www.bing.com/search?q=donate . There are at a vast amount of these a day for the past few months at least (before bing it was live etc.). 


 
 

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Brett Yount

Verified by Brett Yount

Hi,

 

everyone, we’d like to express our sincere apologies that this referrer issue continued past the August 20th date when we explicitly stated that it was fixed. It was not our intention to lie or mislead anyone here. However, with the support of many webmasters' data, our crawling team was able to pinpoint the root cause and deploy a new fix to stop the referrer string in production. This fix has been verified in all of our production beds.

 

Thank you for your patience.

 

~B

Brett Yount

Program Manager | Bing Webmaster Center

 Webmaster Blog


 

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Brett Yount

Verified by Brett Yount

Hi,

 

everyone, we’d like to express our sincere apologies that this referrer issue continued past the August 20th date when we explicitly stated that it was fixed. It was not our intention to lie or mislead anyone here. However, with the support of many webmasters' data, our crawling team was able to pinpoint the root cause and deploy a new fix to stop the referrer string in production. This fix has been verified in all of our production beds.

 

Thank you for your patience.

 

~B

Brett Yount

Program Manager | Bing Webmaster Center

 Webmaster Blog


 
 

lizsnay

This problem seems to be still going on after 3 weeks (your initial post).  We are investing a lot of time and resources in SEO and can't read results with all these falso positives in our view.  When will fix be in place?


 
 

Eliezer

Thank you! I do not see this problem anymore in my logs.


 
 

Barry Schwartz

Was this a cloaking test?  If not, what was this Brett?


 
 

bugstomper

I can confirm that I don't see any more of these in my access logs since Aug 27. I'm glad I can now remove the .htacess block. Thanks.

 


 
 

lordo

Unfortunately, the problem is back in another shape!

I have almost the same number of fake referrer hits from bing but in a different shape: no referrer. So, the stats show me the pages visited, no referrer and the IPs (microsoft's) are like:

65.55.110.21

65.55.110.110

65.55.107.196


 
 

Brett Yount

Hi Lordo,

Thanks for contacting us. Our team is jumping on this as a Pri 1 issue. Could you please send any log files showing these refferer hits to bwmc@microsoft.com for us to investigate?

 

Many Thanks,

~B

Brett Yount

Program Manager | Bing Webmaster Center

 Webmaster Blog


 
 

lordo

I just emailed you from callmenow@some-domain

 


 
 

crypto

thats interesting you can try posting your bugs to this site

www.myjobresume.og

 

We can help you out!

Select the BING BUGS section and they will be answered

Please send me your problems, or post them on the site nand we will figure them out for you

 


 
 

crypto

great posting,

 

only I have to say that submitting a ILLrevelavant links to your local domain has priven to be illrevelavent,

 

=meainaING your content has been gneratated illrealavent,

maein its useless info,

 

your content is not worthy,

 

 submit  AGAIN

 

YOUR CONTENT HAS BEEN SENT BY A BOT


 
 

lordo

Hello?


 
 

Quality Directory

I seem not to have notice any fake referrer in my logs, even though a couple of other people have.


 
 

LAM09

I'd like any traffic at this stage.  My UK site is targeting Tuvalu at the moment on Bing! 


 
 

ttyson3

Thats because its a spammers bot . Spammers  found a way t o use it like Google's to redirect your pages . Heres an article
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3408
http://exodusdev.com/how-spammers-find-your-site
http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/spammers-use-google-urls-in-spam-to-trick-people/

so many articles and as you can see, it's  been going on since 2005 . The only way to stop them is to stop search engines and go back to the old fashion way and trade links. Which is a pain, because these spammers know that people depend on the search engines which they have basically taken over  and  search engines don't really  care ,because they make money off ads and such , so no loss to them only the poor saps  who work their fingers off  with their sites to have them destroyed.

Every link to my site on bing is directed to a spammers  haven, with nothing but my name in it.  I have blocked bling. Only  real decent search engine now is yahoo. . and that's not saying much.


 
 

bugstomper

ttyson3:
Thats because its a spammers bot . Spammers  found a way t o use it like Google's to redirect your pages [...] Every link to my site on bing is directed to a spammers  haven, with nothing but my name in it

That only makes sense if your site is allowing spammers to put their spam, or redirects to their spam, on your pages for the search engines to direct people to. That isn't the search engine's problem, that's your lack of security.

In any case, such a redirect would not show up in your logs as coming from an msnbot ip address, which is what is being discussed in this thread.

I'm now seeing a number of hits from msnbot IP addresses that do not have any referer at all and do not specify an msnbot user agent. Here is a typical log entry, with my domain name obfuscated

msnbot-65-55-109-237.search.msn.com www.example.com - [18/Sep/2009:23:49:50 -0700] "GET /smf/index.php?topic=18375.msg126949 HTTP/1.1" 200 6671 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;  MSIE 6.0;  Windows NT 5.2;  SV1;  .NET CLR 1.1.4322;  .NET CLR 2.0.40607;  .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648)"

That should be enough for the Bing team to identify what it actually was. I got about 80 of these yesterday, not a tremendous amount, but it does make me curious why the msnbot ip addresses are browsing without identifying themselves as msnbot agents.

 

 


 
 

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