ASHTABULA, Ohio (WJW) – One of the women accused of taking a dead elderly man to the bank to withdraw money from his account admitted to a relative what she did during a recorded phone call made from the Ashtabula jail.

The FOX 8 I-Team obtained a recording of the call that was made by Karen Casbohm to a relative.

The relative asked her when the victim, Douglas Layman, died.

“He died when I said he died,” Casbohm responded. She then went on to say he died walking out the door in the  afternoon of March 4.

Casbohm and Loreen Feralo both lived with the victim in his Ashtabula home. Both women are facing charges of gross abuse of a corpse and theft.

Police say the two propped Layman up in the car, drove through the bank to withdraw about $900 from his account and then dropped off his body at the hospital.

During the phone call, Casbohm, who is in wheelchair, said Feralo could not lift Layman so they called a male friend they knew to help them. The relative can be heard on the phone call asking Casbohm why she didn’t call police.

“I just figured I would go to the bank and then to the hospital and drop him off,” Casbohm said. “I just forgot to leave his name.”

“He died before you went to the bank, dude,” the relative said.  

“I know,” Casbohm responded.

Both Casbohm and Feralo appeared in Ashtabula Municipal Court Tuesday and waived their right to a preliminary hearing. Their cases will now be sent to the Ashtabula County grand jury to determine if they should be indicted.

The case remains under investigation and additional charges could be filed.

Friends and family members of the victim were at the court hearing and said they want justice for Layman. They said Layman trusted both women and let them live with him.

Casbohm’s daughter, Taylor Woodring, said her mother has had issues with illegal drugs for years.

“Her drug abuse over the years has increased her infection status where she can’t walk,” Woodring said. “She hasn’t been able to walk for several years now.”

An official with the Ashtabula County coroner says the victim died March 4. His cause of death is still pending.

Both Feralo and Casbohm remain in the Ashtabula jail. Bond for each woman is set at $5,000.