The GOP-controlled House Judiciary Committee led a performative hearing Thursday on a bill that would ban transgender athletes from competing for the U.S. in the Olympics or any World Championship. One of the topics discussed was locker room safety.
Republicans always look foolish when they scaremonger about trans people changing in locker rooms, given the utter lack of a connection between trans-inclusive policies and safety. In fact, transgender teens are actually the folx most at risk when stepping inside public restrooms or locker rooms.
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Harvard researchers found that 36% of transgender or gender-nonbinary students with restricted bathroom or locker room access reported being assaulted over a 12-month span.
But in this case, Republicans appeared even more ridiculous than usual. That’s because Judiciary Committee chairman Jim Jordan was leading the hearing.
In case you need a refresher: For eight years, Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State University (1987-95). That means he’s been in a lot of locker rooms, where wrestlers say he turned a blind eye to sexual misconduct.
During Jordan’s time at Ohio State, university athletic doctor Richard Strauss was sexually abusing student-athletes with impunity. Strauss abused at least 177 students from 1976 to 1996, according to a report commissioned by OSU.
Though Jordan denies knowing anything about the abuse, multiple wrestlers have said differently. Several of Strauss’ victims resurfaced last fall, when Jordan unsuccessfully ran for House Speaker.
“I remember a couple of occasions when we would bring up the abuse to Jim and he would say: If [Strauss] ever tried that with me, I’d snap his neck like a stick of dried balsa wood,” former wrestler Dan Ritchie told the LA Times. “Our coaches all knew.”
Another wrestler, Michael Schyck, says Jim “Gym” Jordan knew as well.
“To say that Jordan didn’t know would be flat-out ridiculous,” he offered. “There was an opportunity for [Jordan] to step up and not worry about himself and be there for his guys.”
Despite those allegations, Jordan shoulders on, pretending to protect women from locker room deviancy. Most of the time, he carries on his facade without resistance.
But on Thursday, Eric Swalwell changed that. The California rep. reminded Jordan of the disturbing allegations against him.
The sharp-tongued archconservative was rendered speechless.
“I guess it’s a good thing that some folks on the other side are now interested in what happens in a locker room, and we’re not going to look the other way,” said Swalwell.
If only there was a closeup of Jordan’s face. It’s time for CSPAN to start covering congressional hearings with multiple cameras!
Jordan: Gentleman from California is recognized
Swalwell: I guess it’s a good thing that some folks on the other side are interested in what happens in a locker room. We’re not going to look the other way. pic.twitter.com/knxyWVUIbr
Swalwell went on to dismiss the bill as needlessly discriminatory. When talking about protecting people’s safety in locker rooms, Swalwell said he accepts Congress’ interest.
But it’s not an issue that needs attention, because nothing bad is happening.
“It’s not a thing,” said Swalwell. “We have things happening in our community that are things. Kids getting mowed down by assault rifles at their school, that’s a thing. Young women in their community have IVF treatments banned, that’s a thing. Women being forced into government mandated pregnancies, that’s a thing. And those are things we can all address on this committee.”
According to Swalwell, the creepiest component of Republicans’ latest anti-trans legislation is the text within the bill itself. He says the law would require athletes to undergo “mandatory gender checks.”
“Is Mr. Jordan enforcing it? Mr. Gaetz enforcing it? Mr. Biggs? Who is enforcing this on-demand gender check?,” he asked.
Swalwell: This an on demand gender check.. so who’s enforcing it? Is Mr. Jordan enforcing it? Is Mr. Gaetz enforcing it? Ms. Hageman, you’re the only who wants to speak on this. No one else will even touch this because it’s kind of creepy. pic.twitter.com/2YbSjefX4y
For years, former Ohio State wrestlers have accused Jordan of abandoning them during a dark period. “I considered Jim Jordan a friend,” said wrestler Mike DiSabato in 2018. “But at the end of the day, he is absolutely lying if he says he doesn’t know what was going on.”
Jordan claims OSU’s report vindicates him, citing a lack of documented evidence. But investigators didn’t go that far. They found that student athletes openly spoke about the ongoing abuse, and 22 unnamed coaches confirmed knowledge of the situation.
George Clooney, for what it’s worth, is working on a doc that delves into Jordan’s role in the scandal.
In what’s probably just a coincidence, Jordan has opposed bipartisan bills meant to protect sexual assault survivors, including legislation that would’ve banned NDAs in sexual harassment and abuse cases.
There’s no word on his plans to hold any hearings about that.
The NFL’s PAC mostly donated to Republicans last year, records show.
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Jim Jordan is a rodent right out of the swamps. He’s embarrassing to watch.
However, irregardless of his swamp rat heritage, that has no bearing on the usefulness of this ban.
As a Democrat, I’m embarrassed at our administration bowing to elite money sources that are pushing trans ideology down humanity’s throat. Of course Trans identifying men don’t belong on women’s sports teams or in their locker rooms. It’s a human rights issue not a political issue. Of course you don’t have to follow lock step while they denigrate pronouns of the english language. Just say “I don’t speak trans”. Stop the lying. If they them don’t like these things, too bad. Life’s tough. Get a helmut.
Planet Fitness has lost 400m in the last week over a scandal about trans identifying males in women’s locker rooms. It’s PFs policy to allow it. A woman went public about her negative experience and the vid went viral. Women and men are mobilizing and holding PFs feet to the fire. They are the new Budweiser scandal. KEEP TRANS IDENTIFYING MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S PRIVATE SPACES! That’s the tempo towards shutting down Planet Fitness. The public is ruthless. People are canceling memberships by the thousands every day. Good on them. Keep up the good work ladies. You know. The real ones.
So IF YOU ARE GAY (I’m talking about You Diplomat) You can’t be around a woman alone because you “MIGHT” RAPE HER? Is that’s what you’re saying? But what you really need to do is contact Miss Caitlyn Jenner and tell her to stay out of the women’s locker room and no more playing women’s golf. She goes around all anti trans and she’s doing exactly what she’s protesting about. But she’s famous so she gets a pass. Guess you get all upset of a trans man comes in the men’s locker room and view your two inches.
Diplomat is also a rodent right out of the swamps. An embarrasment, like his Coach Jim. A man in a men’s locker room! One can only quess the amount of men and boys Diplomat has come onto (asaulted) down at his YMCA…………cringe!
I’m sympathetic to Eric Swalwell here but does he really think women NEVER get sexually assaulted in women’s dressing rooms? He seriously declares “that’s not a thing”? I seem to recall a YUGE court case recently about that!
@Mattster: Another mansplainer! Please go to your local PF and mansplain to all the “cis” women there that they’re a bunch of bigots for not wanting to see schlongs in the locker room. See how well that goes.
Clarification needed: A man dressed as a woman walking into a female locker room and undressing IS AN ASSAULT ON WOMEN. And society is having none of it.
@ Hall Monitor dbmcvey: It’s reassuring that you can read the mind of every trans woman and you KNOW they are ALL incapable of committing sexual assault.
One in 5 women in the U.S. have been sexually assaulted. It’s up to YOU to explain to them and persuade them that they are safe with trans women in their dressing rooms. It’s up to YOU, not me.
It’s disturbing that so many gay progressive men just don’t give a sh*t what women think, and they get a thrill out of insulting women – as you obviously do. Also by doing this stuff you’re essentially working to get Trump elected and I resent you for it.
@still, you prevaricating idiot. No one said that. There certainly are trans women who are capable of SA but they’re not the ones who are doing it. There are cisgender women who commit assault but the vast, vast majority of assault is by men. What a completely dishonest argument.
It’s unfortunate the deluded trans and their supporters have so little ammo all they can do is spit sputter and name call when confronted with societal reality that you try and bend to your own psychotic rules. You’re the perfect examples of being nothing other than chaos in action. Best you’re shut down with laws.
It’s THE TROLL way of getting Gay men to become defensive. They call us tran nies to try to rile us all up. When in fact they know that we are simply both well adjusted Gay men. Who cares what they think about us? What we DO care about is you cretins being out on the streets.
Shaver, inbama, diplomat and some others who are THANKFULLY MIA……………go sit in the corner. The log cabin is leaving the light on for you guys.
Add still_on the mark to that list of creeps above. This commenter KNOWS ”that so many gay progressive men just don’t give a sh*t what women think, and they get a thrill out of insulting women”.
It’s now time for you to STFU. You just insulted millions of Gay men..the biggest irony in your narrow little life.
@db: Actually, telling someone to “STFU” is a violation of the Queerty comments policy, and no objective observer is likely to agree with you that it’s “persuasive.”
According to the FBI, 96.5% of all people arrested for sexual assault are males. (See Table 42)
82% of all juvenile victims are female. 90% of adult rape victims are female
Biological sex is real.
Females are almost always the victims and males almost always the perpetrators.
Exactly, and dbmcvey et al. would agree with that. It’s just that he has a parrot that keeps repeating, over and over and over, TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN… TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN… TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN… BRAAAAAAAK!!! And db forgets that not everyone yet has been convinced by the parrot.
In a legal sense, trans women ARE women. (Or can be, legally.) But in a biological sense, no.
Sadly, there’s no controlling aging trolls like you who have nothing to contribute to any conversation but venom.
The repetitions of TWAW are not Diplomat’s, but can be seen on the website of the ACLU which, last year alone, received 15 million dollars from Jennifer Pritzger, heterosexual male M2F billionaire who funds the movement that has hijacked former lesbian and gay liberation organizations like HRC and GLAAD.
Men can go as medi-cringe as much as they want to look like a woman. As soon as they cross the line into women’s private spaces is when the meat grinder comes down on the male drag queen co*ck.roa*ches you really are. Splat, you’re entire agenda is ruined as you’re escorted off planet.
Why is it so important for you “gay” guys to insure that men bombard women’s locker rooms and their right to privacy…. oh that’s right, you’re batshit crazy so you can’t answer, hence chaos is your religion. Unless you’ve by some rare coincidence grown a backbone. Highly unlikely. Yeah that’s you db/abfab. Go ahead, deflect oh juvenile ones. You’re just too easy to read.
Jordan is a thing and he shouldn’t be. The Democrats have to focus now and retake the House in November. People like Jordan chairing important committees is ironic/funny for awhile, but it’s doing real damage to the nation.
Diplo-not is attempting to gaslight y’all by claiming they’re a Dem despite parroting right-wing anti-trans talking points.
Here are some of the actual “elite money sources” (a thinly-veiled anti-sem itic dog-whistle, BTW (at least Donut is an equal-opportunity h8ter)) that are “pushing trans ideology down humanity’s throat”… they are the most powerful and wealthy dark-money donors on the American right:
* Leonard Leo, the conservative judicial activist who controls a billion-dollar funding apparatus and determined Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominees;
* Richard Uihlein, the GOP megadonor who bankrolls far-right, election-denying candidates;
* Charles Koch and late brother David, the billionaires who’ve funded a vast network of “nonprofit” political organizations;
* NRA, the GOP, and their illegal sources of foreign money that is laundered to appear as legitimate US-based contributions;
* Joseph Edelman, the billionaire hedge fund CEO and biotech investor who provided $1 million to launch Do No Harm, a conservative advocacy group pushing anti-trans legislation in statehouses across the country;
* Rupert Murdoch, the owner of News Corp — a globe-spanning right-wing media empire, political echo chamber, white suprem acist rage machine, and cancer on liberal democracy exemplified by America’s own Faux News and equally odious sources of fake news across the UK and Australia. Murdoch wields his media clout to benefit his commercial self-interests (see: Brexit) and as a propaganda machine for his extreme-right ideological worldviews, which are pro-billionaire, pro-oligarch and, by extension, anti-democratic/fashist (see: CPAC);
* Groups like the Alliance Defending Freedom, the Family Research Council, the Liberty Counsel, and the American Principles Project, who are behind multimillion-dollar efforts targeting LGBTQ rights through “parents’ rights” bills, “don’t say gay”, etc.;
* And the countless social media influencers (like Matt Walsh, Chaya Raichik, & Michael Knowles), cable news talking heads, bought judges, and elected politicians …
… all of whom are fomenting the totally manufactured political & media panic over “denigrating pronouns and the English language”, “groo ming”, “trans ‘activists’ coming for *your* rights”, etc. when it is *they* who are the true ‘activists’. Oh, the irony.
It’s telling but not surprising that the Quee rty Trolls have yet again managed to distract & deflect the subject of these comments from the fact that Gym Jordan is a gr oomer, pe dophile, and enabler thereof. As with all GOP/Trumpist/fash ists and se x predators, “he doth protest too loudly” by accusing others of harboring or acting on his very own de praved thoughts and uncontrollable impulses to violate others.
So please, ignore the trolls! They’re bots, anyway, so it’s an even greater waste of your time to argue with them. Speak your truth instead, which will be far more illuminating. for all of us.
“Speak your truth”, what a joke. Trans and T supporters at best can only burp and fart, their main content. There actions are ‘ill fk over who I want, when I want, don’t stop me’. Now if you can’t justify males in women’s wigs (lea Thomas) stealing women’s sports awards with men stripping in their locker rooms and showers, then shut
thy pie hole cupcake. You got nuthin. There’s the door. You don’t have to be a
republican to see the writing on the wall.
Bc you trans trolls want to destroy women, whom you hate, and brush off without comment, yes, I give more power to making laws against all of you. Next time list all the elite billionaire backers that have pushed trans ideologies down the world’s throat oh grand cherry picker. Yeah they are trans.
Get back sweet thang, you all in all your evil based arrogance are going down.
PS If you had half a brain that was actually lucid and sane, you’d come up with a better stance than “I’m a woman dammit!” Yeah with a beard and balls. Jokes on you mister sister.
Now go radio silent per usual trans response. You’ve been put in your place.
Just a few years ago in the #metoo era, we were all admonished to “Believe all women!” – an idiotic oversimplification, of course. Now we’re ordered to “Ignore all women!” if they complain about men shaving in the women’s room (in front of a 12 year old girl).
“Mandatory gender checks” may sound sinister to someone who has never, ever been in a locker room. But of course simply lowering one’s shorts, one time, would suffice. To Gym Jordan’s disappointment, no such action would be needed for the men. Nobody is concerned about women invading the men’s locker room. They’re concerned about vice versa. If someone doesn’t have a penis the first time, she’s unlikely to grow one. Or – here’s a crazy idea – we could just rely on women to complain about a creepy male invading their space, then throw out the offender instead of throwing out the complaining women as supposed bigots.
Compare that to the Planet Fitness code of conduct, which enshrines anyone’s “sincere, self-reported identification.” – !!!
– Sincere: to quote Groucho Marx, “If you can fake sincerity, you’ve got it made.”
– Self-reported identification: totally subjective, unmeasurable, unquantifiable evanescence for the “Speak your truth” crowd. What could possibly go wrong?
I’m curious by what magic self-declared transwomen-for-the-week become utterly harmless and zero threat to women. Is it the estrogen? Uh, many aren’t even taking it. Do their penises and testes stop functioning the moment they declare they’re women? How miraculous.
@abbie: I know I am, but that’s partly because you and db haven’t even TRIED to refute anything I’ve said.
I know what audience I’m writing for or at least aiming for: the tens of thousands (hopefully!) of Queerty readers who are undecided on this subject and are open to common sense. You and db seem determined to IGNORE them and have fun calling me names. That’s fine with me. 🙂
Ab/db don’t have the intelligence to respond rationally. This is why you’ll find each one counting his own ball hairs intently in the corner. Thoroughly bored with knitting and lady-rejecting man sports, it’s become a favorite past time of the pus*sy boy crowd.
Mandatory gender checks are what results from transwomen being considered women and transmen being considered men. Female penis? Male vagina? Internalized transphobia anyone. If being trans is so valid why demand erasure by inclusion is a pre-existing male/female binary. How about the homophobia and sexism of the trans community that turns young girls who are masculine and young boy who are effeminate into gender identity experiments then post hoc says it was the child’s decision. What’s wrong with a masculine young girl, what’s wrong with an effeminate young boy that anyone would suggest transitioning away from it. Why pathologize the majority for the minority.. Even the Tavistock Clinic has been shut down so frequent are the abuses. Informed consent? Hardly. If the trans community had the courage of its convictions in their true and just cause why wouldn’t they demand their legitimate place rather than illegitimately coopting others. Why isn’t trans enough for the trans community?
Ask a few of them. Your endless questions are rhetorical. Ask a dozen. Ask 2 dozen. Talk to a therapist who helps people out. Don’t make it harder. You sound dumb.
See the YouTubers who are REAL trans people: Blaire White, Buck Angel, Marcus Dib, probably more. Trans people in the past always wanted to fit in as the new gender. Trans people generally want to AVOID attention, not seek it out as some kind of performance art stunt.
Now we’re seeing a lot of “performative” trans people, the kind who think putting on a Party City wig makes them trans (to quote Blaire White).
Anybody who still doubts that lesbians and gays have been kicked to the corner in the movement we founded – a movement that secured rights for all LGBT people – should check out Toronto Pride’s new flag.
Good comment on performatives. Blair Buck and Marcus get it right. Truly sane trans people. They shitcan pronouns, men in women’s spaces, on sports teams, men hurting women on opposing teams volleyball etc with such grace and rational thinking. They own their biology along with being trans. Love those guys.
Of course. Jim Jordan is involved in a scandal involving sexual abuse by a straight-identified conservative man, and the trolls come in pointing the finger at trans people. It doesn’t take a psychologist to see what’s going on here. Hmmm, doesn’t diplomat claim to be a psychologist?
And it looks like someone was banned for bad behaviour, and had to make a new account with an altered name. How long will this one last?
@Bosch: You guess incorrectly, oh paranoid one. I posted as onthemark for many years starting around 2008. I got busy with a new job and stopped posting for a while, 3-4 years or so, and when I tried to log in again it wouldn’t work, so I became still_onthemark. Also, your paintings are weird, do you take a lot of hallucinogens? 🙂
I never used the phrase “bone growth generation”. What I told you was that bone growth resumes when puberty resumes. That you have reading comprehension issues is your problem. Certainly doesn’t make me too optimistic about the quality of your “blogging”.
It gives me peace to sleep at night to know that 20+ state legislatures have past laws protecting females from trans aggressive males in female attire, out to ruin real women’s lives. The all shall not fall on the sword for the one. May all 50 states follow suit as quickly as possible.
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dbmcvey
What was Gym thinking? How did he think this would go?
Diplomat
Jim Jordan is a rodent right out of the swamps. He’s embarrassing to watch.
However, irregardless of his swamp rat heritage, that has no bearing on the usefulness of this ban.
As a Democrat, I’m embarrassed at our administration bowing to elite money sources that are pushing trans ideology down humanity’s throat. Of course Trans identifying men don’t belong on women’s sports teams or in their locker rooms. It’s a human rights issue not a political issue. Of course you don’t have to follow lock step while they denigrate pronouns of the english language. Just say “I don’t speak trans”. Stop the lying. If they them don’t like these things, too bad. Life’s tough. Get a helmut.
Planet Fitness has lost 400m in the last week over a scandal about trans identifying males in women’s locker rooms. It’s PFs policy to allow it. A woman went public about her negative experience and the vid went viral. Women and men are mobilizing and holding PFs feet to the fire. They are the new Budweiser scandal. KEEP TRANS IDENTIFYING MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S PRIVATE SPACES! That’s the tempo towards shutting down Planet Fitness. The public is ruthless. People are canceling memberships by the thousands every day. Good on them. Keep up the good work ladies. You know. The real ones.
wgs19
What you should be embarrassed about is using the word “irregardless.”
still_onthemark
Although “irregardless” is unforgivable, PF did screw up here.
Mack
So IF YOU ARE GAY (I’m talking about You Diplomat) You can’t be around a woman alone because you “MIGHT” RAPE HER? Is that’s what you’re saying? But what you really need to do is contact Miss Caitlyn Jenner and tell her to stay out of the women’s locker room and no more playing women’s golf. She goes around all anti trans and she’s doing exactly what she’s protesting about. But she’s famous so she gets a pass. Guess you get all upset of a trans man comes in the men’s locker room and view your two inches.
abfab
Diplomat is also a rodent right out of the swamps. An embarrasment, like his Coach Jim. A man in a men’s locker room! One can only quess the amount of men and boys Diplomat has come onto (asaulted) down at his YMCA…………cringe!
Jim
I wonder why Gym Jordan turned a blind eye.
Is that all he did?
abfab
He was getting off on men assaulting men and boys in a men’s locker room.
still_onthemark
I’m sympathetic to Eric Swalwell here but does he really think women NEVER get sexually assaulted in women’s dressing rooms? He seriously declares “that’s not a thing”? I seem to recall a YUGE court case recently about that!
Mattster
Women do indeed get assaulted, it’s mostly by MEN, not women, and certainly not trans women.
still_onthemark
@Mattster: Another mansplainer! Please go to your local PF and mansplain to all the “cis” women there that they’re a bunch of bigots for not wanting to see schlongs in the locker room. See how well that goes.
dbmcvey
Wait still, are you a woman? Because what Mattster says is true and is not mansplaining. You left all of that out of your comment.
Diplomat
Clarification needed: A man dressed as a woman walking into a female locker room and undressing IS AN ASSAULT ON WOMEN. And society is having none of it.
still_onthemark
@ Hall Monitor dbmcvey: It’s reassuring that you can read the mind of every trans woman and you KNOW they are ALL incapable of committing sexual assault.
One in 5 women in the U.S. have been sexually assaulted. It’s up to YOU to explain to them and persuade them that they are safe with trans women in their dressing rooms. It’s up to YOU, not me.
It’s disturbing that so many gay progressive men just don’t give a sh*t what women think, and they get a thrill out of insulting women – as you obviously do. Also by doing this stuff you’re essentially working to get Trump elected and I resent you for it.
dbmcvey
@still, you prevaricating idiot. No one said that. There certainly are trans women who are capable of SA but they’re not the ones who are doing it. There are cisgender women who commit assault but the vast, vast majority of assault is by men. What a completely dishonest argument.
Diplomat
There is no such thing as trans women, only trans identifying men.
dbmcvey
Dips, you’re a total moron.
abfab
db……you’ve been annointed the hall moniter!! Aren’t you happy!
Diplomat
db,
As a man who thinks he’s a woman, you’re batshit crazy. Or more medically put, mentally ill.
still_onthemark
@abbie: where have you been, Principal Kangol2 appointed dbmcvey Hall Monitor years ago! 🙂
dbmcvey
Dips, you think you’re a woman? I guess you’re talking about yourself because I certainly don’t.
Just showing, once again, what an idiot you are.
Diplomat
db/ab
It’s unfortunate the deluded trans and their supporters have so little ammo all they can do is spit sputter and name call when confronted with societal reality that you try and bend to your own psychotic rules. You’re the perfect examples of being nothing other than chaos in action. Best you’re shut down with laws.
dbmcvey
Dips, I’ve never claimed to be a woman and I’m not trans. The fact that you think calling someone a woman is an insult is pretty disturbing.
abfab
It’s THE TROLL way of getting Gay men to become defensive. They call us tran nies to try to rile us all up. When in fact they know that we are simply both well adjusted Gay men. Who cares what they think about us? What we DO care about is you cretins being out on the streets.
Shaver, inbama, diplomat and some others who are THANKFULLY MIA……………go sit in the corner. The log cabin is leaving the light on for you guys.
ShaverC
The study doesn’t look very scientific if all they did was ask 13 to 17 year old kids if they felt they were harassed.
abfab
Oh, now a right wing troll is insterested in science.
ShaverC
Yes I believe men are men, and women are women because of science. You don’t seem to believe in science.
dbmcvey
Shaves, give us what science you think you have, because it doesn’t really agree with what you’re saying.
abfab
ShaverC gives off that MAGA smell (stench) each and every time he enters the room.
abfab
Women have also been assaulted and harrased by other women in women’s gyms and locker rooms. We are not going to ban women from women’s locker rooms.
And let’s not even bring up the subect of men in men’s locker rooms. We have a few shrinking violets in the room who might faint.
All locker rooms need a ”no creep policy” so that would exclude Shaver C and Diplomat and Jim Jordan automatically.
abfab
Add still_on the mark to that list of creeps above. This commenter KNOWS ”that so many gay progressive men just don’t give a sh*t what women think, and they get a thrill out of insulting women”.
It’s now time for you to STFU. You just insulted millions of Gay men..the biggest irony in your narrow little life.
still_onthemark
@abfab: You’re so persuasive.
dbmcvey
@still,
Yes. He is.
abfab
Save your comments. Be still. Think more.
still_onthemark
Telling someone to “STFU” is persuasive? Okay then, good luck persuading millions of women about it, no doubt you’ll both do a great job!
abfab
The good luck wishes. Keep those, you’ll need them.
still_onthemark
@abfab: YES, I’ll definitely need them if you guys get Biden defeated over this issue.
dbmcvey
@still,
Yes, telling you to STFU is persuasive because you’re typing nonsense.
still_onthemark
@db: Actually, telling someone to “STFU” is a violation of the Queerty comments policy, and no objective observer is likely to agree with you that it’s “persuasive.”
Again, I’m not the one you need to persuade.
dbmcvey
@still,
Then report it. Just spare us all your b.s.
inbama
According to the FBI, 96.5% of all people arrested for sexual assault are males. (See Table 42)
82% of all juvenile victims are female. 90% of adult rape victims are female
Biological sex is real.
Females are almost always the victims and males almost always the perpetrators.
still_onthemark
Exactly, and dbmcvey et al. would agree with that. It’s just that he has a parrot that keeps repeating, over and over and over, TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN… TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN… TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN… BRAAAAAAAK!!! And db forgets that not everyone yet has been convinced by the parrot.
In a legal sense, trans women ARE women. (Or can be, legally.) But in a biological sense, no.
abfab
There’s help for managing OCD. Talk to your doctors.
inbama
Sadly, there’s no controlling aging trolls like you who have nothing to contribute to any conversation but venom.
The repetitions of TWAW are not Diplomat’s, but can be seen on the website of the ACLU which, last year alone, received 15 million dollars from Jennifer Pritzger, heterosexual male M2F billionaire who funds the movement that has hijacked former lesbian and gay liberation organizations like HRC and GLAAD.
abfab
Inbama makes makes Baron Wiseman seem sane.
Diplomat
Men can go as medi-cringe as much as they want to look like a woman. As soon as they cross the line into women’s private spaces is when the meat grinder comes down on the male drag queen co*ck.roa*ches you really are. Splat, you’re entire agenda is ruined as you’re escorted off planet.
abfab
Look world! The classic example of A MESS.
dbmcvey
Wow. Dips using language right out of the fascist playbook. He and Trump are in lockstep.
Diplomat
Swalwell is completely off his nut.
dbmcvey
Dips continues down his loony MAGA road.
abfab
db….let’s go out and bombard locker rooms.
Diplomat
Why is it so important for you “gay” guys to insure that men bombard women’s locker rooms and their right to privacy…. oh that’s right, you’re batshit crazy so you can’t answer, hence chaos is your religion. Unless you’ve by some rare coincidence grown a backbone. Highly unlikely. Yeah that’s you db/abfab. Go ahead, deflect oh juvenile ones. You’re just too easy to read.
abfab
Your air quotes are precious. And so are you, just precious.
Diplomat
Drinks and apps at Olive? Haha but only if you get a backbone. Do continue…
dbmcvey
Sure dips, that’s exactly it. What you’re saying isn’t completely insane at all.
Fahd
Jordan is a thing and he shouldn’t be. The Democrats have to focus now and retake the House in November. People like Jordan chairing important committees is ironic/funny for awhile, but it’s doing real damage to the nation.
sbsfo
Diplo-not is attempting to gaslight y’all by claiming they’re a Dem despite parroting right-wing anti-trans talking points.
Here are some of the actual “elite money sources” (a thinly-veiled anti-sem itic dog-whistle, BTW (at least Donut is an equal-opportunity h8ter)) that are “pushing trans ideology down humanity’s throat”… they are the most powerful and wealthy dark-money donors on the American right:
* Leonard Leo, the conservative judicial activist who controls a billion-dollar funding apparatus and determined Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominees;
* Richard Uihlein, the GOP megadonor who bankrolls far-right, election-denying candidates;
* Charles Koch and late brother David, the billionaires who’ve funded a vast network of “nonprofit” political organizations;
* NRA, the GOP, and their illegal sources of foreign money that is laundered to appear as legitimate US-based contributions;
* Joseph Edelman, the billionaire hedge fund CEO and biotech investor who provided $1 million to launch Do No Harm, a conservative advocacy group pushing anti-trans legislation in statehouses across the country;
* Rupert Murdoch, the owner of News Corp — a globe-spanning right-wing media empire, political echo chamber, white suprem acist rage machine, and cancer on liberal democracy exemplified by America’s own Faux News and equally odious sources of fake news across the UK and Australia. Murdoch wields his media clout to benefit his commercial self-interests (see: Brexit) and as a propaganda machine for his extreme-right ideological worldviews, which are pro-billionaire, pro-oligarch and, by extension, anti-democratic/fashist (see: CPAC);
* Groups like the Alliance Defending Freedom, the Family Research Council, the Liberty Counsel, and the American Principles Project, who are behind multimillion-dollar efforts targeting LGBTQ rights through “parents’ rights” bills, “don’t say gay”, etc.;
* And the countless social media influencers (like Matt Walsh, Chaya Raichik, & Michael Knowles), cable news talking heads, bought judges, and elected politicians …
… all of whom are fomenting the totally manufactured political & media panic over “denigrating pronouns and the English language”, “groo ming”, “trans ‘activists’ coming for *your* rights”, etc. when it is *they* who are the true ‘activists’. Oh, the irony.
sbsfo
sbsfo
It’s telling but not surprising that the Quee rty Trolls have yet again managed to distract & deflect the subject of these comments from the fact that Gym Jordan is a gr oomer, pe dophile, and enabler thereof. As with all GOP/Trumpist/fash ists and se x predators, “he doth protest too loudly” by accusing others of harboring or acting on his very own de praved thoughts and uncontrollable impulses to violate others.
So please, ignore the trolls! They’re bots, anyway, so it’s an even greater waste of your time to argue with them. Speak your truth instead, which will be far more illuminating. for all of us.
Diplomat
“Speak your truth”, what a joke. Trans and T supporters at best can only burp and fart, their main content. There actions are ‘ill fk over who I want, when I want, don’t stop me’. Now if you can’t justify males in women’s wigs (lea Thomas) stealing women’s sports awards with men stripping in their locker rooms and showers, then shut
thy pie hole cupcake. You got nuthin. There’s the door. You don’t have to be a
republican to see the writing on the wall.
Bc you trans trolls want to destroy women, whom you hate, and brush off without comment, yes, I give more power to making laws against all of you. Next time list all the elite billionaire backers that have pushed trans ideologies down the world’s throat oh grand cherry picker. Yeah they are trans.
Get back sweet thang, you all in all your evil based arrogance are going down.
Diplomat
PS If you had half a brain that was actually lucid and sane, you’d come up with a better stance than “I’m a woman dammit!” Yeah with a beard and balls. Jokes on you mister sister.
Now go radio silent per usual trans response. You’ve been put in your place.
abfab
How does this creep sleep at night. We can all imagine the long list of issues that plague him. This must be the tip of the iceberg.
Diplomat
I do agree!
Diplomat
I so agree! Lots of ambian I suspect. Such prattle.
still_onthemark
Just a few years ago in the #metoo era, we were all admonished to “Believe all women!” – an idiotic oversimplification, of course. Now we’re ordered to “Ignore all women!” if they complain about men shaving in the women’s room (in front of a 12 year old girl).
“Mandatory gender checks” may sound sinister to someone who has never, ever been in a locker room. But of course simply lowering one’s shorts, one time, would suffice. To Gym Jordan’s disappointment, no such action would be needed for the men. Nobody is concerned about women invading the men’s locker room. They’re concerned about vice versa. If someone doesn’t have a penis the first time, she’s unlikely to grow one. Or – here’s a crazy idea – we could just rely on women to complain about a creepy male invading their space, then throw out the offender instead of throwing out the complaining women as supposed bigots.
Compare that to the Planet Fitness code of conduct, which enshrines anyone’s “sincere, self-reported identification.” – !!!
– Sincere: to quote Groucho Marx, “If you can fake sincerity, you’ve got it made.”
– Self-reported identification: totally subjective, unmeasurable, unquantifiable evanescence for the “Speak your truth” crowd. What could possibly go wrong?
I’m curious by what magic self-declared transwomen-for-the-week become utterly harmless and zero threat to women. Is it the estrogen? Uh, many aren’t even taking it. Do their penises and testes stop functioning the moment they declare they’re women? How miraculous.
abfab
Knock yourself out still. You’re doing a fantastic job.
still_onthemark
@abbie: I know I am, but that’s partly because you and db haven’t even TRIED to refute anything I’ve said.
I know what audience I’m writing for or at least aiming for: the tens of thousands (hopefully!) of Queerty readers who are undecided on this subject and are open to common sense. You and db seem determined to IGNORE them and have fun calling me names. That’s fine with me. 🙂
abfab
Know this. You are not convincing or fooling anyone. But carry on, by all means.
Diplomat
Ab/db don’t have the intelligence to respond rationally. This is why you’ll find each one counting his own ball hairs intently in the corner. Thoroughly bored with knitting and lady-rejecting man sports, it’s become a favorite past time of the pus*sy boy crowd.
mastik8
Mandatory gender checks are what results from transwomen being considered women and transmen being considered men. Female penis? Male vagina? Internalized transphobia anyone. If being trans is so valid why demand erasure by inclusion is a pre-existing male/female binary. How about the homophobia and sexism of the trans community that turns young girls who are masculine and young boy who are effeminate into gender identity experiments then post hoc says it was the child’s decision. What’s wrong with a masculine young girl, what’s wrong with an effeminate young boy that anyone would suggest transitioning away from it. Why pathologize the majority for the minority.. Even the Tavistock Clinic has been shut down so frequent are the abuses. Informed consent? Hardly. If the trans community had the courage of its convictions in their true and just cause why wouldn’t they demand their legitimate place rather than illegitimately coopting others. Why isn’t trans enough for the trans community?
abfab
Ask a few of them. Your endless questions are rhetorical. Ask a dozen. Ask 2 dozen. Talk to a therapist who helps people out. Don’t make it harder. You sound dumb.
still_onthemark
See the YouTubers who are REAL trans people: Blaire White, Buck Angel, Marcus Dib, probably more. Trans people in the past always wanted to fit in as the new gender. Trans people generally want to AVOID attention, not seek it out as some kind of performance art stunt.
Now we’re seeing a lot of “performative” trans people, the kind who think putting on a Party City wig makes them trans (to quote Blaire White).
abfab
And you’d like to do something about all of this, I can hear it in your voice.
inbama
Anybody who still doubts that lesbians and gays have been kicked to the corner in the movement we founded – a movement that secured rights for all LGBT people – should check out Toronto Pride’s new flag.
twitter DOT com/PrideToronto/status/1770842874109706268/photo/1
Diplomat
Still_
Good comment on performatives. Blair Buck and Marcus get it right. Truly sane trans people. They shitcan pronouns, men in women’s spaces, on sports teams, men hurting women on opposing teams volleyball etc with such grace and rational thinking. They own their biology along with being trans. Love those guys.
Bosch
Of course. Jim Jordan is involved in a scandal involving sexual abuse by a straight-identified conservative man, and the trolls come in pointing the finger at trans people. It doesn’t take a psychologist to see what’s going on here. Hmmm, doesn’t diplomat claim to be a psychologist?
And it looks like someone was banned for bad behaviour, and had to make a new account with an altered name. How long will this one last?
still_onthemark
@Bosch: You guess incorrectly, oh paranoid one. I posted as onthemark for many years starting around 2008. I got busy with a new job and stopped posting for a while, 3-4 years or so, and when I tried to log in again it wouldn’t work, so I became still_onthemark. Also, your paintings are weird, do you take a lot of hallucinogens? 🙂
Bosch
No, not you. Someone who’s absence made Queerty a lot more peaceful for a little while.
And, yes. Yes I do.
Bosch
Lol you’re gonna complain about an autocorrect typo, and then use the phrase “bone growth generation”? Big brain time.
Bosch
I never used the phrase “bone growth generation”. What I told you was that bone growth resumes when puberty resumes. That you have reading comprehension issues is your problem. Certainly doesn’t make me too optimistic about the quality of your “blogging”.
Diplomat
It gives me peace to sleep at night to know that 20+ state legislatures have past laws protecting females from trans aggressive males in female attire, out to ruin real women’s lives. The all shall not fall on the sword for the one. May all 50 states follow suit as quickly as possible.
Diplomat
As with any unhinged dictatorship that wants to settle in the US: like a virus in America’s culture, yes they are losing.
CNY1983
back to the billboards in columbus ohio of gym jordans head photoshopped on larry nassars body