Out of all the heavy s from the 90 s I think morrison fits in with the 1920 guys. He hits hard , had heart to come back some time s but could lose to a unknown heavy in a blink. I'm hesitant, for obvious reasons to throw him in there with dempsey but how's he doing with the contenders of the 20 s?. Turning pro roughly same time as dempsey facing men such as Wills Greb Gibbons Brennan Stribling. Do you see morrison getting as far as a title shot or remaining at the bottom of the division?
Depends on what you mean by the 20s. The last time Gibbons was ranked in the top 10 was 1924. Brennan wasn't even ranked after 1923. Stribling was only ranked in 28/29. Guys I would consider solid 20s fighters are Dempsey Sharkey Wills Godfrey Tunney Uzcudun Morrison would definitely fit in with those guys. However I think he loses to Dempsey, Sharkey, Tunney, Godfrey, and Wills. If he started his career in 1920 I could definitley see him get a title shot by the mid 20s.
No, no. You are way off. The 20s contenders fought far more frequently and often against their rated peers. The division was so deep, they had a credible top 15 instead of a top 10. Morrison is like 1-2 against rated opposition in his entire career with a loss to an uknown. Contrast that to a guy like Jack Sharkey who in the 20s fought 8 contenders in just his first two years as a pro and clocked 22 total fights in 24 months.
I wasn't actually saying he had the same fighting activity levels as those guys. Which fighter s after the 1950 s onwards really did. I meant his style of fighting. Quite a few good slugging matches going on back then. Morrison could get into a good few brawls. Maybe win a few, lose a few. Was really asking how he'd do against the contenders of the time.
Regardless of what he actually achieved in reality, a 6'2", 225 pounder with a monster left hook like Morrison would have been a danger to any fighter that fought in the 1920s including Dempsey.
Morrison probably would have gotten clocked out early on and decide on an easier career.... The very slightest mental weakness taken advantage of during the golden age...murderous schedules and competition
Oh thought you were saying he was similar in terms of consistency, and I don't feel the competition is there to make that analogy. I feel Morrison would be a lower tier contender in any era. Given the right opportunity, he might snag a big win, he's not completely incapable of that, but he would never be deemed a successful fighter and lose more major fights than he would win. I think he would always be popular though, he just had a charisma. It wasn't just being a White American prospect in the 90s, he looked like a star. And I could see him getting more movie work back then too. I see all of these guys beating him, unless there is unusual circumstances. Like say Tommy catches one of them injured or on the tail end of a brutal schedule while being in top shape himself. Dempsey Sharkey Wills Godfrey Tunney Uzcudun As for your proposed opponents. Greb-I don't know. He beat Bill Brennan who was a decent sized heavy that could punch. But Greb really didn't battle rated heavy sluggers that much. He mostly stuck to MW and LHWs, as he himself was a welter. Gibbons-I believe he could outbox Morrison. Brennan-Good match up.
Not a big morrison fan, but I feel he's being underrated a bit. I'd make him a favorite over Sharkey and Gibbons for starters
Morrison is one of the most dangerous fighters you can fight for obvious reasons,one particular is a killer left hook,think genetics arent involved in fighting? Go watch some of his sons fights who doesnt even have any amatuer experiance of all but one fight. In the 20's even say at 210 pounds or so the guy is going to still hit hard and fast,we dont know exactly what would happen bc when you switch training regimines and trainers everything changes. If we threw Morrison as is as he was in the 90's he would be a killer,no one would want to step in the ring with anyone like that in the 1920's...please...lol He was a top guy /champion in the 90's but he wont be in the 20's ? Go ahead and post his losses and i'll show you the SAME guys who have losses to guys who wouldnt even be Morrisons sparring partner.......???? This section gets better and better and always finds a great topic where ppl are still utterly clueless and still think you match the RATINGS of someone elses era? Morrison has a field day without anyone below 200 pounds not resembling Razor Ruddock/Foreman /Mercer or lennox lewis....MAYBE someone lucks out and catches him like Mike Bentt, but im sure no one in this section actually knows about that guys skills and thats one fight where luck was on his side. NOT many fighters in any era are going to survive a fast paced Morrison k.o agenda and than factor in very small padded gloves ...... As a matter of fact the only guy to really dominate and control him off the start was Lennox Lewis who fought one of the best fights of his career bc he knew just how dangerous morrison was,but Morrison struggles in 1920?...
He would ken. Morrison wasn't the worst heavy to come along in the 90 s by a long shot. I put him on the same level as ruddock and razor seems to get a better deal on most forums. He wasn't the greatest out there but he could crack and he had heart. I think against some guys in the 20 s he does pretty good. Would like to have seen him against Firpo and wills . maybe he could have been matched up with willard on the comeback trail. Carpentier would have been interesting. Maybe like dempsey a match up with a young sharks. He'll get a title shot at some point. I don't see him beating dempsey, he may catch Jack coming in. Stun him, maybe drop him, after all morrison could dig , but his chin against dempsey s punching doesn't bode well.
Morrison and the size, speed and power to be extremely dangerous in most time periods .. his weaknesses were a shaky chin and focus .. when focused he was dangerous because he would fight smart and limit his exposure like he did against Foreman ..
White American heavyweights were two-a-penny in the 1920s so it's unlikely Morrison would have received the hype and matchmaking to make any inroads at all in that era. He'd have to face more threats coming through the ranks and he'd get KO'd too often. Morrison stated in an interview in the 1990s or ealy 2000s that he'd have been a cruiserweight without steroids, and that was when cruiser was 190. If we imagine a level-no drugs-playing-field for Morrison in the 1920s, his chances of success dwindle even further. But even bloated on 'roids he wouldn't do much.
