2 More With Swine Flu Die, City Confirms

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Updated, 10:50 p.m. | Two more New York City residents — a 41-year-old woman from Queens and a 34-year-old man from Brooklyn — have died after contracting swine flu, bringing the total number of city fatalities related to the disease to four, the city’s health commissioner, Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, announced on Tuesday afternoon. (See related article.)

The two people both had underlying medical conditions that raised their vulnerability to the swine flu virus, Dr. Frieden said. The two other city residents who died from swine flu this month — Mitchell Wiener, an assistant principal at a Queens middle school, and a Queens woman in her 50s — also had underlying medical conditions.

Speaking at a news conference in Lower Manhattan, Dr. Frieden also announced that one more school — 811Q, a 42-student special-education program for students who are medically fragile, at Public School 822 in St. Albans, Queens — would be closed. More than 40 schools have been closed since swine flu broke out in New York City in late April.

(Later on Tuesday evening, the authorities announced the closings of four more schools: Public School 128, a 786-student school in the Washington Heights section of Manhattan; 231K, a 123-student special education program for students with disabilities, located at Public School/Intermediate School 180 in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn; Public School 68, with 791 students in the Wakefield section of the Bronx; and a 150-student program for students with disabilities at Public School 369 in Boerum Hill, Brooklyn.)

Dr. Frieden said that autopsies in the two new deaths were pending, but said that laboratory testing had confirmed swine flu in both victims. “In these two cases, the deaths were not medically attended, and so the full history is not yet known,” he said. “They either died at home or could not be resuscitated when they were brought in.”

He added, “To our knowledge, neither of these individuals worked in the school system.”

As of Monday morning, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had confirmed 6,764 swine flu cases, including 10 deaths, in 47 states and the District of Columbia. The three most recent New York City deaths were not included in those figures.

Dr. Frieden, who has been selected by President Obama to lead the C.D.C. and is to leave the New York City job, said there have been 131 hospitalizations related to swine flu as of Tuesday.

In the past month, the city has closed 42 schools or school programs in 31 school buildings; 25 schools or school programs have reopened, including 20 on Tuesday.

Over the past week, about 20 to 25 patients have been newly hospitalized each day because of flulike symptoms.

Normally, a typical city emergency room records “not more than a couple of hundred visits a day,” but now, some have been reporting “more than 2,000 per day,” Dr. Frieden said.

At the same news conference, Kathleen Grimm, a deputy schools chancellor, said that a letter from Schools Chancellor Joel I. Klein was being sent home with all students, explaining the swine flu situation.

While officials have said that shutting schools will do little or nothing to halt the overall march of the flu virus, but have said that in certain cases the decision to close schools might help protect medically vulnerable people at risk of contracting the flu virus from students or staff at affected schools.

Dr. Frieden emphasized that although swine flu appears to be more contagious than seasonal flu, so far, it does not appear to be more deadly.

Between 400,000 and 1.5 million New Yorkers get seasonal flu every year, and about 1,000 city residents each year die from complications of seasonal flu, he said.

Speaking before signing two bills at City Hall on Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Bloomberg said: “As the virus spreads through the city, and through this country and around the world, these deaths sadden us but I don’t think they take us by surprise. It doesn’t, however, lessen the loss of loved ones and our thoughts and prayers are with their families.”

With reports of new flu cases tapering off around the country — with the exception of New York, New Jersey and New England — federal health officials said Tuesday that they would concentrate on tracking the swine flu’s progress in the southern hemisphere and on preparing for a surge of new cases in the fall.

Outside of the Northeast, reports of people with flu symptoms visiting doctors and hospitals have dropped down to normal late-May levels, “which is extraordinary,” said Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of immunization and respiratory disease for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Although Dr. Schuchat would not say say flu had peaked for the season, she said the country was “at a transition point” and would look ahead to the next season, which usually begins in November.

The agency will help the World Health Organization monitor the Southern Hemisphere’s flu season, which is set to begin soon. The chief worry is that the virus could swap genes with the H1N1 human seasonal flu now circulating and pick up its resistance to Tamiflu. In a much less likely but much more serious scenario, it could pick up genetic material from the H5N1 avian flu and become far more lethal.

While Kathleen Siebelius, the secretary of health and human services said last week that the government would allocate $1 billion to the search for a swine flu vaccine, Dr. Schuchat said federal officials would make their decision “as late as possible” about whether to recommend that Americans get that vaccine.

Mindful that in 1976, 40 million Americans got a vaccine against a swine flu that never re-emerged, and many suffered side effects that may have been caused by it, health officials want to make sure the makers have as much time as possible to test the vaccine’s safety and to make sure the returning virus looks dangerous enough to justify the risks — usually slight — that any vaccine entails.

The W.H.O. said Tuesday that 46 countries have reported almost 13,000 cases of lab-confirmed H1N1 and 92 deaths, most of them in Mexico.

More than half the confirmed cases have been in the United States, where more than 300 people have been hospitalized with flu complications and where at least 10 people have died, Dr. Schuchat said.

However, since the United States, Mexico and Canada are testing only a tiny fraction of the flus seen by doctors, the real number of global cases is likely to be in the hundreds of thousands. Most flu pandemics ultimately infect about one-third of the world, but take about two years to do so, officials said.

David W. Chen and Donald G. McNeil Jr. contributed reporting.

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I wonder how many have died in NY and elsewhere in the last several weeks from “regular” flu? And, how many have died from other common and usually not very serious illnesses? I still think the press is hyping this particular flue and ignoring lots of other more serious medical issues.

The news is about telling you what is new. If you want insight, go to church.

so what are the underlying medical conditions?

Sorry Mitch – this is a story about the swine flu, not the “regular flu,” and not other illnesses. The swine flu may not be the bubonic plague, but some of us want to learn more about it. Thanks to the reporter for reporting the news.

@ 1. I had those same questions. Then I read more and found that this flu is significant b/c of the type of strain, which has some components of the same flu strain that wiped out millions of people in the early 1900s. Also it seems to be easily transmitted. So though it’s not killing as many people as “regular” flu, the potential to is much higher, at least based on reports I’ve read.

@ 2. amen.

church is the last place i would go for insight… especially when it’s related to a medical issue

I hate that the city and popular media keep trying to discount the threat posed by the swine flu by stating that those who died had “underlying conditions.”

When the ‘underlying condition’ is asthma, which is all-too-common ailment among city residents, and the virus is killing individuals in their 30’s, it is a threat to be taken seriously.

Prior to the swine flu threat, I’d never heard of a ‘seasonal flu’ outbreak in May.

I thought the most at risk age groups were under the age of 2 and over the age of 65? Both of these new deaths are middle aged. I understand that many people die every year from flu, but don’t the age differences matter to anybody? This is clearly not as mild as seasonal flu. Young people being hospitalized and dying at this rate is NOT typical and should be treated as a serious issue.

I would like to know the age ranges of those hospitalized in NYC. I would also like to know how many of them are currently on ventilators and, of those, how many are between the ages of 2 and 65.

– Justin K.

When there have been deaths associated with H1N1, there is often a reminder of mortality rates usually associated with seasonal flu and an implication that underlying medical conditions have made those who succumb to H1N1more vulnerable. This seems like an attempt to reassure. But, in the absence of specifics about the underlying medical issues as well as the lack of information about whether the actual cause of death is generally the same as for seasonal flu, I do not feel particularly reassured. Without this information, it is not possible for one to make some assessment of individual risk.

These “underlying issues” can be something as simple as pregnancy or diabetes.

Although closing the schools may not stop the virus, it dilutes the virus to some degree. It lowers the overall concentration of the virus.

I thought that this was hype when it initially became a problem in April, but now I think that this is a serious problem that is trying to be swept under the rug.

I noticed there are 4 deaths in NY when I checked FluCount.org but I didn’t know if it was accurate, but now that I saw this article.. I can’t believe people are still dying of this. You don’t hear much about it in the media anymore. But according to //www.FluCount.org the numbers are still going up, so..

even though h1n1 isn’t deadly “enough” to be taken seriously yet, this strain of virus has demonstrated it ability to mutate and adapt to new hosts. without serious containment, it’s a matter of time before it mutates to deadlier forms. by then it’ll also be all over the place because of the current lack of any sort of urgency.

The information is frightening because it is too vague. Being transparent would help us to cope, prepare and have more control over our preservation. I too feel its a purposeful vageness meant to undermine our abilities to help ourselves to tell the medical profession and the government what we need to remain healthy.

Just to keep things perspective…

In the United States more than 100,000 people are hospitalized and more than 20,000 people die from the flu and its complications every year.

If you want to add in pneumonia, it would bring it up above 60,000 deaths per year.

Although asthma is common and therefore is often easily dismissed, it actually can become a very serious condition. I have had a friend have a simple cold (pre-swine flu!) turn into pneumonia in part because of their asthmatic condition. This is why it is so important that people keep their asthma under control as much as possible, keep their inhaler within easy reach even if they are not prone to episodes, and keep the pollutants in the air to a minimum so that more people do not have to deal with this trivialized but still serious illness.

What exactly are these “underlying medical conditions”?

Why is the public not being told?

I’m not sure what bringing up seasonal flu does except to muddy the waters here and make us more complacent about something we should take seriously.

First, advertising the fact that the seasonal flu causes 36,000 deaths annually in the US obscures an important point of difference with the flu caused by novel H1N1 (swine flu). 90% of the deaths caused by seasonal flu are in people over 65; of the remainder, a very significant percentage is pediatric, and only about a few hundred (yes, hundred) people who die of the seasonal flu are in the 5-65 age group. However, virtually all of the deaths from the swine flu in the US – as well as the majority of the hospitalizations – have been in the adult/young adult population; the pattern is no different in Canada or Mexico. One must admit that there is something very concerning about people in their teens, 20s and 30s ending up on ventilators from the flu, almost half of them with no underlying conditions.

That brings me to all this talk of underlying conditions. Frankly, I know of no one in my age group (30-40) without underlying health conditions – asthma, thyroid disease, pregnancy, psoriasis etc. – and all of these have been cited as relevant underlying conditions in the people who have died of swine flu (including psoriasis, which is a skin disorder). And yet, we are all quite healthy people – we regularly hike and bike and swim all day. And if one of us were to die of the swine flu, I have no doubt that she or he will be characterized as having had a chronic health condition.

So, what is going on? Why are young, reasonably healthy people dying – or at least ending up on the ventilator? Why are we not getting answers to these questions, instead of being mollified by misleading statistics about the seasonal flu and blanket characterizations of the dead as having underlying health conditions?

there is always the risk that the flu will mutate and become more deadly. Viruses mutate, so the concern is real. Dont assume this flu is “not news.”

Thanks to the reporter who reports this news.

Swine Flu attacks much Younger people than the garden-variety seasonal flu.

It’s scary to learn that most people who die of Swine Flu are younger people, these 2 NYC residents are aged 41 and 34. The other cases are 13-year-old boy in Arizona, 21-year-old man in Utah, 44-year-old man in Missouri.

While NYC Health Dept and Mayor “Complacent” Bloomberg keep emphasizing that only the people with “underlying medical conditions” need to be concerned.

Think about it. A lot of American have “underlying medical conditions” such as Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Asthma, Heart Diseases.

I would say at least half of the American population are at great risk.

justin k – great point…this is no joke and I dont agree with mayor statement…(I am surprised of deaths)…something is telling me this is just a bigining of something more rather then less to worry about…

I think there trying to BURN OUT hini. Exposing many people in inner cities to it and hoping it wears out.

Mitch Diamond says above: “I wonder how many have died in NY and elsewhere in the last several weeks from “regular” flu?”

I’m not sure what the actual numbers are for this, but Anne Schuchat of the CDC just said today in a press briefing that the vast majority of influenza circulating today is novel H1N1: “A few weeks ago, it was the seasonal flu still circulating. Almost all the positives we have is this novel H1N1 virus.” The CDC earlier estimated that there are about 100,000 cases in the US, though, of course, far fewer have been confirmed.

Incidentally, the CDC website is quite excellent for up-to-date information; they upload audio and transcripts of their press briefings almost daily, and these are especially useful.

I have a sprained finger and am middle aged. Does this mean I’m more prone to death from the swine flu? Can some smart reporter find out what “underlying medical conditions” couple with H1N1 to kill people?

Your individual risk of death is 100%. By what means and when are the only things not certain. Good article on age of hospitalizations and deaths with this flu: //www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/16/AR2009051601850.html

I don’t think people are taking this threat seriously. It’s transmission is highly efficient. What guarantees are there for them not to change for the worse. I would like to know what are being done to stop or slow down the mutations.

-Lee R.