That “cowardly” dating tendency also came up during Kotb and Bush Hager’s April 25 on-air discussion with Vivica Fox. When Bush Hager mentioned the prevalence of online dating and asked Fox if she thought “ghosting” was “ever OK” to do, the actress and producer admitted she had ghosted someone before.

I think we should send my children to your house and your children to mine, like you know that old show, and see what happens,” Bush Hager told her co-host.

“Well, she said, ‘You really need to listen to this song called (‘My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys’) which I love,” said Jenna. “She gave me a listening guide and then also told Henry and I about what each song was supposed to be about.” Jenna and her husband Henry Hager have two daughters, Mila, 11, and Poppy, 8, and son Hal, 4.

The ladies at Today With Hoda & Jenna are always down to try a new internet trend, even if it means that they’ll have to break up to do it. Hoda Kotb and Jenna Bush Hager were discussing a breakup method called “bless and release” that has become popular per the suggestion of dating coach and TikTok user Lily Womble.